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Hard To Say I'm Sorry

Chicago

Hard To Say I'm Sorry by Chicago (released in 1982) appeared in 15 of the 27 editions of the NPO Radio 2 Top 2000. Its highest chart entry was position 839 in 2002. The song first appeared on the list in 2000 and last appeared on it in 2015.

15editions on the list
839highest position
2002in edition
2000first edition

Chart history

110002000199920042009201420192025

All positions by edition

EditionPosition
20151908
20141986
20131900
20121849
20111984
20101919
20081540
20071757
20061936
20051578
20041314
20031090
2002839
20011350
2000985

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How the song fared

On average, Hard To Say I'm Sorry was at position 1595.7 in the 15 editions in which it was on the list. Its lowest chart entry was position 1986 in 2014. It reached the top 10 0 times and the top 100 0 times. The longest consecutive run was 9 editions (up to and including 2008). The biggest rise came in 2002: from position 1350 to position 839 (+511). The biggest fall came in 2001: from position 985 to position 1350 (-365). In 2025, the song was not on the list; it was last on it in 2015.

Compared with all songs

In total, 4,925 different songs have appeared in the Top 2000. With 15 editions, this song shares that score with 134 other songs, and 1,422 songs were on the list in more editions. There are 2,229 songs that have ever ranked higher than position 839.

Also released in 1982

104 other songs from 1982 are in the Top 2000. The highest chart entries:

Neighbours in the 2015 list

In 2015, this song was at position 1908. I Don't Like Mondays (The Boomtown Rats) was at position 1907, one place higher; It Must Have Been Love (Roxette) was at position 1909, one place lower.

Frequently asked questions

How often was Hard To Say I'm Sorry by Chicago in the Top 2000?

Hard To Say I'm Sorry was on the list in 15 of the 27 editions (1999 to 2025), first in 2000 and most recently in 2015.

What is the highest position of Hard To Say I'm Sorry in the Top 2000?

The highest chart entry was position 839 in 2002.

How high was Hard To Say I'm Sorry in the 2025 Top 2000?

The song was not on the list in 2025.

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The Top 2000

The Top 2000 is an annual listener chart from NPO Radio 2: the 2000 favourite songs of the listeners, broadcast between Christmas and New Year, from number 2000 to number 1. In 2026 it is the 28th edition.

How is the list put together?

Listeners vote in advance for their favourite songs. NPO Radio 2 counts the votes and turns them into the list. In 1999 you still voted with a coupon from the free newspaper Spits; now you do it via the NPO Radio 2 website.

How did it start?

Radio 2 came up with the list around the turn of the millennium and originally meant it as a one-off. It became so popular that it returned in 2000, and every year after that. More about this on the History page.

The broadcast

Since 2010 the broadcast has come from the Top 2000 Café at the Netherlands Institute for Sound and Vision (Beeld en Geluid) in Hilversum. In 2025 the broadcast lasted 168 hours, with number 1 just before midnight on 31 December. Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen was number 1 in 22 editions.

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Under the Top 2000 results is the Basement League: artists and songs that never made the Top 2000, labelled Never charted. An artist from it has their own card with all songs by year of release. If an artist is also in the Top 2000, you see the Basement League songs under their regular card. If you only want the Top 2000, untick Also Basement League above the results.

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What have I done?

  • All editions from 1999 to 2025 combined: 27 lists of 2000 positions each.
  • The top 100 of every edition compared position by position with other sources. No real discrepancies were found, only spelling variants of titles.
  • Facts and records calculated from that data, and news facts looked up, always with a source.

Where does the data come from?

  • The lists themselves come from the Excel database by Erwin Groenhof (top2000database.wordpress.com). The original source is NPO Radio 2.
  • Checked against: top2000nl.com, Wikipedia, Ziggo and news reports.
  • Photos only come from Wikimedia Commons, with the creator's name and licence included.
  • The Basement League (artists and songs that never made the Top 2000) comes from MusicBrainz and Wikidata (both free to use) and Wikipedia. That data is maintained by volunteers and may be incomplete or inaccurate.

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The lists are stored in a SQLite database; the pages themselves are generated statically with Jekyll. For the near-live section, my own collector checks what NPO Radio 2 is playing every 30 seconds and matches it to the position in the list. It is the same technique as on the radio page.

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